How do I Represent Myself at an Unemployment Compensation Benefits Hearing
by: Northwest Justice Project
May I appeal a denial of unemployment benefits?
After your initial interview with the Claims Telecenter, you will get a written notice by mail that will grant or deny you unemployment benefits. If you have been denied benefits, you have a right to appeal. If you have been granted benefits, your former employer has the same right to appeal. If either you or your employer appeals, you will have a hearing with an administrative law judge.
How do I file an appeal?
You have thirty days from the date on the decision to send in an appeal. If you write a letter, state: “I want to appeal the denial of unemployment benefits because I disagree with the decision. I want a hearing. I want a copy of my file. " Include your name and address and your employer’s name and address. Send the form or the letter to the address on the notice, or fax it to the Telecenter using the number provided on the written decision that denied you benefits. Keep a copy of what you send. If you need help with your appeal, the Unemployment Law Project may be able to help you. Call them at (206) 441-9178 or (888) 441-9178.
Should I continue to file for unemployment benefits while I appeal?
If you decide you are going to appeal the decision, continue to file your claims. If you win at your hearing, you will get benefits for each of the weeks for which you filed. If you lose at your hearing, and you had been getting benefits before the hearing, the Employment Security Department will try to get these benefits back from you.
You must keep a record of all the places you have looked for work. If you have not been doing this, start now. Also, write down all the prior contacts you can remember. Contact at least three different potential employers each week, using work search methods that are customary in your line of work. These contacts can include calling or going to the personnel office of a potential employer to see if there are any jobs available, or filling out and returning a job application. You will need to be able to tell the judge at the hearing about your efforts to get work. If you were offered a job and did not take it, you will have to prove to the judge that the job was not suitable for you.
What happens next?
After you have sent in your Notice of Appeal, you will get notice of the date and time of your hearing. Your hearing may be by phone or in person. If you cannot come to the hearing on that date, call the Office of Administrative Hearings (OAH). (The number for the OAH offices in Seattle, Olympia, Vancouver, Yakima and Spokane are in the Notice of Hearing. Make sure you call the right office. )
Your Notice of Appeal will also state whether the hearing will be in person or by phone. If you are scheduled for a phone hearing but you feel you had be at a disadvantage, call the administrative law judge and ask for a change. Example: if you and your employer are saying two different things about what happened, it may be better to have a judge listen to you in-person. If you are scheduled for an in-person hearing and you have a condition that would make it hard for you to attend the hearing in-person, you should also call the judge. The judge will listen to your reasons for wanting to change the way the hearing is conducted and decide whether to agree to the change.
How should I prepare for the hearing?
KNOW THE LAW:
Generally, you will not get benefits if the judge decides that you quit your job without a good reason, known as “good cause.” If you were fired, you will not get benefits if you did something on the job that the judge thinks is “misconduct.” We describe good cause and misconduct below.
If you quit, think about how to show that it was for good cause. If you were fired, think about how to show that it was not because of misconduct. Write down what you want to tell the judge about good cause or misconduct. Bring these notes to your hearing.
IF YOU QUIT YOUR JOB:
RCW 50. 20. 050(2) governs the law on quitting and unemployment benefits. If you quit your job with good cause, you are eligible for benefits. However, you must prove good cause. Under the law, you show good cause if you can show that you quit for one or more of the following reasons:
acceptance of other work (bona fide offer of bona fide work)
your illness or disability, or the illness, disability or death of someone in your immediate family
relocation of your spouse due to a mandatory military transfer
your protection or the protection of a member of your immediate family from domestic violence or stalking
reduction of your usual income by at least 25 percent
reduction of your usual hours of at least 25 percent
a change in your worksite that caused a problem with commuting
a deterioration of worksite safety
the existence of illegal activities in the worksite
a change in your usual work which violated your religious convictions or sincere moral beliefs
You also need to show that before you actually quit, you tried to solve the problems you were having at your job. Example: if you talked with your supervisor and asked him for a different job or a different shift, tell the judge that. If you did not do this, you must explain why you felt it would have been useless to try to change things that way.
There are some situations where the judge may find that you most likely did not have good cause to quit. Examples: You quit where
you were no longer satisfied with the work
the reduction in hours and pay were a result of something you had control over
the new job offer was a sham OR
you knew of the worksite safety issues before taking the job, but took the job anyway.
The judge might find that any of the above is not good cause.
IF YOU WERE FIRED FROM YOUR JOB:
RCW 50. 04. 294 governs misconduct. Generally, you are eligible for unemployment benefits if you were discharged or fired from your job, unless the employer can show that something you did was misconduct. Whether something is misconduct or not is up to the judge. The judge will listen to your employer’s story and your version before s/he decides. The employer has the burden to prove that you were fired or suspended for misconduct or gross misconduct.
The law describes misconduct as including, but not limited to:
willful or wanton disregard of the interests of the employer or a fellow employee
deliberate violations or disregard of standards of behavior the employer has the right to expect of you
carelessness or negligence that causes or would likely cause serious bodily harm to the employer or a fellow employee
carelessness or negligence of such degree or recurrence to show an intentional or substantial disregard of the employer’s interest
Examples of misconduct or willful or wanton disregard of the employer’s interests include, but are not limited to:
insubordination
repeated and inexcusable tardiness after warnings
dishonesty related to employment
repeated and inexcusable absences
deliberate and illegal acts
deliberate acts that provoke violence or a violation of the law or collective bargaining agreement
violation of reasonable company rules, and
violations of the law while acting within the scope of employment.
The law describes gross misconduct as a criminal act in connection with your work for which you have been convicted in a criminal court, or you have admitted committing, OR conduct connected with your work that demonstrates a flagrant and wanton disregard of the interests of your employer or a fellow employee.
The law also describes what does NOT meet its definition of misconduct. Examples include:
inefficiency;
unsatisfactory conduct;
failure to perform well as the result of inability or incapacity;
inadvertence or ordinary negligence in isolated instances; or
good faith errors in judgment or discretion.
Your Employer Will Try To Show:
that you were warned about something you were doing that was against company policy and you did not try to stop what you were doing. Example: if the company manual said you have to lock up a tool cabinet at the end of your shift, and you kept leaving it unlocked after repeated warnings from your supervisor, that might be misconduct.
that you did not do something your boss asked you to do, which was reasonable and part of your job. Example: if you worked as a janitor and your boss asked you to mop the floor and you refused to do it, that might be misconduct.
You Should Try To Explain:
You were fired because your employer thought your work was not good enough, but you had tried your best to do it right. Example: you made several mistakes while operating the cash register, but did not mean to make those mistakes. It would probably not be misconduct.
You did not know what you were doing was wrong. No one had told you or warned you about it. Example: you were not warned by your supervisor that you should lock the tool cabinet. You did not know it was a rule. It would probably not be misconduct.
You refused to do a dangerous job after you told your employer about the danger. Example: your employer wanted you to work on a machine without safety glasses. You told him/her that you refused to do it because you thought it was too dangerous. That would probably not be misconduct.
You were fired for reasons that were unrelated to how you do your job. Example: your employer fired you because you got a traffic ticket, but driving is not part of your job. Getting a traffic ticket would probably not be misconduct. It has nothing to do with your job.
Look at Your Unemployment File
When you file an appeal, you have a right to a copy of everything in your unemployment file. If the hearing will in-person, call the Office of Administrative Hearings number listed in the Notice of Appeal Filed or Notice of Hearing. Ask for a copy of your file if you have not already received your file from the Claims Telecenter. If your hearing is by phone, you will get copies of the documents in the mail.
Look at these documents carefully. If there are no statements from your employer in the file, talk to someone at the OAH. Tell them you want everything in the file, including the statements of other people.
Look closely at your employer's statement. See if you think it is true. If it is not true, think of ways you can show it is wrong. Also, look closely at any written statements that are attributed to you. These statements may be wrong. You must tell the judge if you disagree with anything in the file.
You Can Look at Your Employer’s Records
The law says your employer must keep records showing the hours you worked each day and each week and the reason you left your job. You can also have access to letters of warning and other records of discipline. To get copies of any of these records, ask the Administrative Law Judge at OAH well before the hearing.
You Can Use Documents or Witnesses to Help Your Case
If a co-worker saw or heard what you or your employer did or said, you could ask the worker to be a witness at your hearing. A witness who cannot attend the hearing in-person can phone in. It is your responsibility to make sure your witness comes to the hearing or is at the phone at the right time.
If you cannot get someone whom you are sure will help your case to agree to come to the hearing, ask the judge to subpoena that person. A subpoena legally requires a person to come to the hearing. If a witness needs an excuse to be out of work during the hearing, or is afraid of being punished for testifying, it may also be helpful to subpoena that person. You may want to tell the witness in advance that you will be sending a subpoena.
Documents That You Could Submit
You are allowed to submit documents to the administrative law judge to help to prove your claim. Some things that may be helpful include:
your medical records;
a letter from your doctor or mental health care professional;
an affidavit or sworn statement from someone who saw what you or your employer did or said if that person cannot be present at the hearing in person or by phone[1];
any other document that you think would support what you are saying happened.
Before your in-person or phone hearing, you will be mailed documents that will be used at the hearing. If you want to submit other documents, mail or fax copies to the judge and to your former employer (or to any other parties listed on the Notice of Hearing) before the hearing. The address and any fax numbers are listed on your hearing notice. The judge may also require that you submit documents before an in-person hearing. Read all the information sent to you from the OAH.
What if I cannot read or speak English very well?
If you speak little or no English or are hearing impaired, immediately contact the Claims Telecenter or the Office of Administrative Hearings. An interpreter should be provided to help you at no cost.
May I request a delay to the hearing?
If you are still collecting documents, you may ask that the hearing be delayed to a later date. However, if you are the one who appealed, this may also delay your benefits. If you have a doctor’s appointment or a job interview or will be on vacation the day of the hearing, you may ask to delay the hearing. You must call the judge to ask for a postponement.
What should I do at an in-person hearing?
You must be on time for your hearing. If you are running late, contact the Office of Administrative Hearings (OAH) immediately. If you are late or if you do not appear for your hearing, the judge may declare a default. Make sure your witness(es) are also on time for the hearing, or are ready to call in to the hearing. Bring several copies of all your documents with you, including a list of jobs you have applied for. Bring a list of points you want to bring up at the hearing, and paper and pen for taking notes. You may read from your list during the hearing if you are comfortable doing that.
You will go into a room with the judge, the employer’s witnesses or representatives, and your own documents and witnesses. The judge will tape-record the hearing. You will take an oath that you will tell the truth.
When you testify, try to be clear. Tell the story in the order it happened. You must tell the judge everything that you want him/her to know. The judge may ask you some questions. The employer’s representative may also ask questions. The employer’s witnesses may testify, too. The employer may bring documents. You may question the witnesses, including your employer. If at any point you are confused about what is happening during the hearing, ask the judge to explain it to you.
How do I take part in a phone hearing?
If you are scheduled for a phone hearing, you must call the Office of Administrative Hearings at the telephone number on the Notice of Hearing on the time and date indicated. Leave your phone number with the person who answers. The judge will call you back when the hearing begins. Do not call from a pay phone or from a cell phone.
The hearing procedure will be the same as the in-person hearing. If you cannot hear, be sure to let the judge know. You will need to have your work search log with you. The judge may ask you about the employers you have contacted to seek work.
Do I have the right to a qualified interpreter at my hearing?
Yes. Call the Office of Administrative Hearings as soon as you get your Notice of Hearing. Tell them you need an interpreter. If no interpreter is provided, you have a right to reschedule your hearing. If the interpreter is speaking too fast, ask him/her to slow down. If s/he is not doing a good job, say so. You can also ask for a different interpreter. Do so while the tape-recorder is running.
How do I make objections?
You have the right to “object” to witnesses or documents the employer uses. The judge may still listen to the testimony or read the documents, but you should still object. You may not be able to do it later on if you appeal.
The employer’s witnesses can only testify about what they personally saw, said, or heard. If one witness talks about something that another person said happened, that is called “hearsay.” You may object to the employer using hearsay.
Example: if the manager of the store is testifying, and he was not employed at the store at the time he said you were late for work, he would be talking about what another employee said about what time you came in on a particular day. You should say: “I object. That is hearsay. I should be able to question this person myself about what happened and show that he is not telling the truth. Please do not rely on this information in making a decision about my employment.” This is because the manager does not know himself whether or not you were late and is relying only on the word of someone who is not at the hearing.
Always make your objections while the tape recorder is running.
You may also object to documents that your employer presents at the hearing. If the document has information from someone who is not at the hearing, and it is a document that is not a form or record produced regularly at your work, you should object.
Example: Your employer tries to present a written statement from another employee who is not at the hearing. You object. Say: “I object. This is hearsay. I should be able to question this person myself about what happened and show that he’s not telling the truth. Please do not rely on this information in making a decision about my employment.” Try not to ask for the testimony of your supervisor who still works for the employer.
You should also object if the employer tries to use documents that you asked for but were not provided to you. You have the right to see all of the documents before the hearing. If, at the end of the hearing, you think you need the testimony of another person, ask to have another time set to come back with your witness. At the end of the hearing, ask for a copy of the hearing tape.
How do I appeal the judge’s decision?
You will get your decision in the mail within a few weeks after your hearing. If you do not agree with the decision, you may appeal by filing a “Petition for Review. ” You must file the Petition for Review within 30 days of the mailing date listed on the Office of Administrative Hearings (OAH) decision.
If you have not already done so, call the Agency Records Center at 360-753-5134 for a copy of the hearing tape. Listen to the tape. Find the parts in the tape that help show that you quit for good cause or were not fired for misconduct.
A Petition for Review is really just a letter. In the letter, explain why you think the judge’s decision was wrong. Use examples from the tape. Be as organized and specific as possible. The letter must be no longer than five pages and signed by you. At the top of the letter, write “Petition for Review.” Include your name and address, your social security number, and the Docket Number on the decision.
How do I respond to my employer’s appeal?
If the employer appeals the decision, you will receive a copy of the Petition for Review with an Acknowledgment. The Commissioner’s Review Office needs to receive your Response within fifteen days of the date of the Acknowledgment.
In your Response letter, say it is a Response to a Petition for Review. List your name, address, Social Security Number and the Docket Number of the decision. Explain why you think the judge was right when s/he determined you should have benefits. Then explain why you think the employer’s arguments are wrong. Try to use examples from the hearing tape. The response letter must be no more than five pages. It must be signed by you.
Where should I send the Petition for Review or the Response?
Send your Petition for Review, certified mail, return receipt requested, to:
Agency Records Center
MS - 6000
P. O. Box 9046
Olympia, WA 98507-9046
Send your Response to the Petition for Review, certified mail, return receipt requested, to:
Commissioner’s Review Office
P. O. Box 9046
Olympia, WA 98507-9046
Always check your decision to make sure that this is the correct address. Write on your Petition for Review or your Response letter that you sent a copy of it to your former employer or its representative, and then do so.
How do I appeal the agency's final decision?
If you disagree with anything in the final decision issued by the Commissioner, you have the right to file a Petition for Judicial Review in Superior Court within thirty (30) days. If you are very low-income, call CLEAR at 1-888-201-1014 as soon as possible if you are interested in possibly filing an appeal to Superior Court. You may also wish to contact a private attorney. The state is required to pay the attorney's fees to claimants who win their appeal. If you cannot find an attorney who is willing to take your case, you may file an appeal yourself. You can also contact the Unemployment Law Project at 206-441-9178 or 1-888-441-9178.
[1]However, there is a chance the judge will not allow these documents into evidence. See the section “How do I make objections?’
Last Reviewed On: 02/20/12
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