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- A basic comparison
- prepared by
- Richard P. Weishaupt
- Community Legal Services, Inc
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- SSI
- Aged (65), blind or disabled
- SSA
- Monthly check
- Comes with health insurance -- Medicaid
- Social Security
- Aged, blind or disabled
- Run by SSA
- Monthly check
- Comes with health insurance -- Medicare
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- SSI
- Means tested – income and resource tests
- Benefit depends on income
- Benefits only for eligibles
- Social Security
- Insurance based – no means tests
- Benefits depend on contributions
- Benefits also for dependents
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- Social Security
- Law Title II -- 42 USC sec 401 et seq.
- Regulations – 20 CFR sec 401 et seq.
- Rules – POMS*
- SSI
- Law Title XVI – 42 USC sec 1381 et seq.
- Regulations – 20 CFR sec 416 et seq
- Rules – POMS*
- POMS online at https://secure.ssa.gov/apps10/poms.nsf/partlist!OpenView
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- Social Security
- Used to be full retirement at 65
- Early retirement at 62
- Now varies depending on dob – 65 for those born 1937 and earlier; 67
for 1960 and later
- SSI
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- Same test for both:
- Disability = unable to do substantial gainful activity that exists in
significant numbers in the national economy
- Caused by an physical or mental impairment that will last at least a
year or result in death
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- Social Security
- SSI
- Must be a “qualified” alien
- Significantly more difficult and complicated
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- Fully insured – 40 quarters (10 years) of work
- Disability also requires current insurance – basically 5 out of last 10
years
- Special rules for those 21 – 31.
- In 2008 a quarter of work requires $1,050 in earnings
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- Spouses
- Widows and widowers
- Children, including Disabled Adult Children
- Parents
- Survivors
- Granparents
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- Countable income must be under payment amount $637 for an individual,
$955 for a couple.
- Resources must be under $2000 for an individual, $3000 for a couple.
- Residence and a car generally don’t count
- Some other opportunities for planning – SNT, burial reserves, etc.
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- Working may effect eligibility for all kinds of disability, especially
in excess of SGA ($940 in 2008)
- Working will reduce SSI benefits based on formula (deduct $65 + 50%)
- Working will reduce retirement benefits if under 70
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- SSI also comes with a State Supplement in PA ($27.40 for an individual,
$43.70 for a couple
- Maximum SS is $2116 in 2007
- Overpayments may reduce benefits in both programs.
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- Always get an Appointment of Representative (form 1696) signed if you
are trying to help
- Infirm claimants can have a “representative payee.”
- Appeal if there is any doubt – you only have 60 days to appeal
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